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"Stroll benefited from a FREE pitstop!" | Lando Norris on mandatory pitstop rules under red flag

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McLaren's Lando Norris rewatches the key moments from his Italian Grand Prix performance, and explains why he thinks the rules on mandatory pitstops need to change so they are not exploited during red flag situations.
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  1. Clash with Simon

    Clash with Simon

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    But if it was lando with the free pitstop and P3 and Stroll complained there would be no one agreeing

  2. Wendy Parrott

    Wendy Parrott

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    No mandatory pit stop should have a least a drive though, not penalty but entering the pit lane as a mandatory thing.

  3. Joe Rabone

    Joe Rabone

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    I think the fairest thing would be allowing teams to do what they want during a red flag but then make them have a mandatory drive through within 2 laps of the restart

  4. The MAJOR

    The MAJOR

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    Very POOEY rule indeed.

  5. Daniel Brown

    Daniel Brown

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    Lando is spot on. If stroll has changed tires during the red flag then he should have 24 seconds added to his race time. Every other driver pitted during the race and stroll has massively gained from this

  6. Daniel Pouton

    Daniel Pouton

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    Typical f1 driver crying on

  7. Sam Todd

    Sam Todd

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    Yeah completely agree. Pretty sure formula 2 don’t adopt this rule in a red flag and not sure why F1 won’t remove it

  8. Bear

    Bear

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    Future world champ 🏆

  9. Extra Tom

    Extra Tom

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    F1 is a team sport and strategy is apart of that, luck shouldn't exist. May the best team win. Also the pit lights are so dumb. If anyone should've received a penalty it should be the people that placed them there. Hamilton wasn't in the wrong.

  10. ocelotrevs

    ocelotrevs

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    Tough.

  11. NationVenomous

    NationVenomous

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    Its about tyre compounds. there never was a mandatory pit rule

  12. NationVenomous

    NationVenomous

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    only people complaining are those that lost out lol.

  13. nigelo92

    nigelo92

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    Stroll lucks onto his second podium, shame.

  14. Alex G.

    Alex G.

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    hahah GG LANDO

  15. SJ Spode 114

    SJ Spode 114

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    F1 is all about exploiting the rules & the loopholes, even the crappy rules... But completely agree with Lando. IMO - No tyre changes unless there's damage or you're changing from wet to dry or vice versa- don't even allow advantage of new sets of same compound to be changed on red flag.

  16. Zero Ninety

    Zero Ninety

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    Stroll should have won that race, he had a free pitstop, track position at the restart and a better car than Gasly but he didn't have the talent to get the job done.

  17. J. J. Thompson

    J. J. Thompson

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    Daniel's move? I don't remember that one 🤔

    • SIXITHS

      SIXITHS

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      On Bottas lap 1 out of the second Lesmo.

  18. Tommy Haywood

    Tommy Haywood

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    Totally correct. It's unfair. Also Daddy's Cash totally hashed the Roggia, totally left the track and kept his places. Not on

    • Seshadhri S

      Seshadhri S

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      @Tommy Haywood He lost time to the people in front and Norris messed up getting him tbh

    • Tommy Haywood

      Tommy Haywood

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      @Seshadhri S seems unfair. Should be a wall there

    • Seshadhri S

      Seshadhri S

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      He took the required route when out of track and came back where he did. Doesnt need to give the position back.

  19. TheNoviceSimRacer

    TheNoviceSimRacer

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    Still didn’t help stroll even with a free stop he should of won he had a 25 second advantage on everyone with the free stop and over 1 minute on Lewis and if he had 5 more laps stroll would of lost out to Lewis aswell

  20. Srikanth Subramani

    Srikanth Subramani

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    He used words that aarava uses for example argy bargy and elbows out lol

    • harrapino

      harrapino

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      These are very common terms

  21. inelectron

    inelectron

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    Tyres shouldnt be allowed to be change, you didnt pit so thats your fault. Imagine a grid restart with lets say hamilton on old tyres and the rest on fresh, the mix up would be very entertaining.

  22. Tushar V

    Tushar V

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    Wait why was Raikonen on the soft tyres after the red flag? He would have had a way better race if he didn't have tyres that fell off a cliff

  23. Meekz Media

    Meekz Media

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    FIA should add 26sec (Pit Stop Time) to his end time so we get a real 2-3 as he did not "Pit" which you need to...

  24. simon jackson

    simon jackson

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    In regards to the "free" pit stop under the red flag, Lando has a point...

  25. J T

    J T

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    Lando is a cocky little prick, it's going end in tears.

  26. bot

    bot

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    I think a red flag should also count into the parc fermé rule, not touching the car except for cooling since that’s mandatory, the teams should only be able to apply the coolers to the intakes on the engine and brakes and then stand aside. Should’ve been a McLaren double podium but oh well..

  27. cosmin77sin

    cosmin77sin

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    Make 2 a stop mandatory, you can pick whatever tires you want all the way (for example from soft to soft to soft), you can pit under SC or VSC but Red flag is not a pit stop. Make it simple and we will have more exciting racing and less confusion. That way, even if there is a SC everyone can pit and change their strategy even if they are on fresh rubber as they can basically consider it as a one stop race in terms of tires. That way the SC is not such a big disrupter (like what happened to Gasly in Spa). Making 2 pit stops mandatory would improve the sport in terms of speed (they can push more), entertainment value (different strategies mixing things up more) whilst keeping things fair and not compromising the sport DNA (2 stops are not something now).

    • MrSniperfox29

      MrSniperfox29

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      @cosmin77sin Obviously I am confusing you, I',m sorry facts are such a hard concept for you If Mercedes didn't have to use two types of tyre, they would simply bolt softs on, build up a thirty second lead, pit, more softs, and repeat. Hell they could make an extra stop and still win by a mile (this has been shown this season) In fact, this very system is how Schumacher dominated the 2004 championship, go very very fast, make lots of pit stops but always be on fresh rubber. Your "plan" wouldn't see any improvement for this season (apart from no tyre blow outs in Britain so an even more boring race) and let Mercedes dominate every more in Belgium. And since 2021 is the same cars, no imprvement there either. Now we can all fantasize about what the 2022 cars will do, but until we know, there is no point claiming "well they can do X" because you have no idea what will actually happen other than you confusing the fans ever more (since they can't even understand you can make tyre stops under red flag). How about this? No tyre stops unless its under racing conditions, therefore nobody gets a free pit stop and nobody is confused. Teams also wouldn't pit far to early and try and make their tyres last from then on. Very simple, even the dumbest F1 fan could understand that rule.

    • cosmin77sin

      cosmin77sin

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      @MrSniperfox29 the strategies the teams use are when to pit and on which tires. What are you on about? The fastest tires don't always last enough, even for a 2 stop. A lot of overtaking happens during the pits or is forced by under/over cuts of other drivers on different strategies. At this point I'm just explaining F1 to you.

    • MrSniperfox29

      MrSniperfox29

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      cosmin77sin that would not lead to different strategies everyone would two stop on the fastest tyres

    • cosmin77sin

      cosmin77sin

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      @MrSniperfox29 they have to because no tire would last an entire race 100% even if they would be allowed. My point is let them race, go full blast when they can instead of seeing Hamilton preserve his tires for half the race. The more varied the strategies can be, the more mixed the grid will get throughout the race.

    • MrSniperfox29

      MrSniperfox29

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      @cosmin77sin You realise that they pick other tyres because they HAVE to, you literally said any tyre type.

  28. beermanuk

    beermanuk

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    This happened to Button years ago in Monaco, he was catching at a rate of knots as everyone's tires had gone off, he was on a fresh(er) set. Race red flagged and everyone changed tires basically for free. It was a shitty rule then and still is, no idea why it wasn't looked into at the time.

  29. Jamsie

    Jamsie

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    when the rules go against you, dont complain afterwards, this should of been addressed before the season started. when the race started, you know what rules you are racing by

  30. My Wife Hates This Car

    My Wife Hates This Car

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    Well Stroll has to do what he has to do in order to keep a seat with his Dad's team and prove that he's not just on the grid because his Daddy's a rich man.

    • My Wife Hates This Car

      My Wife Hates This Car

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      @Tushar V I'm sure Mr.Stroll has paid you a lot of money to comment this, but I'm afraid you're wrong. He's there because of his money, and while he's won lower formulae it doesn't always translate to being a good driver. As for Albon, he hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip to Verstappen. Horner has even admitted as much.

    • Tushar V

      Tushar V

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      That's just a stupid statement at this point because Stroll actually does pretty well nowadays. Being consistent, not making big mistakes, taking the opportunities given to him. And he has a very good and experienced teammate but qualifying and race results are close and go either way, so he does make a lot out of his car. And compared to drivers like Albon or Bottas who are nowhere near the level of their teammate, Stroll is improving while those 2 just continue going further behind their teammate.

  31. J T

    J T

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    Are sky aware that there are other drivers?

    • Harry Townend

      Harry Townend

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      J T Sky presenters are biased always have been they hate Mercedes love Red Bull and McLaren

  32. Billy Fletcher Iracing

    Billy Fletcher Iracing

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    That’s a really good point that I didn’t think about during the race, a very fair one at that. As he said, you have literally gained 24 odd seconds by doing absolutely nothing.

  33. padoosh28

    padoosh28

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    Mandatory means mandatory, should be yooken under race conditions not red flag, stroll should've still had to come in regardless, poor show

    • MrSniperfox29

      MrSniperfox29

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      Actually there is no such ruling for a mandatory pitstop. There is a ruling that unless it is raining (in which case you could, hypothetically, do the entire race without stopping), you have to use two different compounds. By the letter of the law, Stroll did nothing wrong.

  34. Peter Fowke

    Peter Fowke

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    Well done for come number four at Italian Grand Prix 2020 Lando.

  35. CraigUK37

    CraigUK37

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    I didn't think the rule was you had to do a mandatory pit stop, I thought the rule was you had to use at least two different compounds over the race. Which Stroll did.

    • MrSniperfox29

      MrSniperfox29

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      Indeed, but apparently Lando here (and a lot of the comments) are confused on that.

  36. Kelly Halliday

    Kelly Halliday

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    Lando defo deserves P3. Best start he’s had and defended brilliantly against Valtteri most of the race

    • Tushar V

      Tushar V

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      Not really defended, more like the Mercedes just overheated behind the car and never could get close enough to pass.

  37. Kobey Davidson

    Kobey Davidson

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    He’s 100% right, everyone knows stroll shouldn’t be in F1. His dad literally had to buy him a team because even with all his money he couldn’t get a paid drive. He’s not good enough and this is exactly why Ocon and Hamilton have a point. F1 is no longer about talent, it’s about who brings the most money

    • Kobey Davidson

      Kobey Davidson

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      @Tushar V Hulkenberg out qualified him twice in his return to F1 in silverstone. the team favours stroll on strategy all the time thats why he's finishing ahead of checo and Hulk in the race

    • Tushar V

      Tushar V

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      That's just a stupid statement at this point because Stroll actually does pretty well nowadays. Being consistent, not making big mistakes, taking the opportunities given to him. And he has a very good and experienced teammate but qualifying and race results are close and go either way, so he does make a lot out of his car. And compared to drivers like Albon or Bottas who are nowhere near the level of their teammate, Stroll is improving while those 2 just continue going further behind their teammate.

  38. Zephyr 56

    Zephyr 56

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    should be parc ferme

  39. S Healey

    S Healey

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    Well said Lando, totally with you on this one.

  40. Dean Gibson

    Dean Gibson

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    Boo hoo. Stroll got a free pit stop. Lando is one of my favourite drivers but Stroll gained less from the safety car and red flag then Gasly. Why are people keen to ban changing tyres at a red flag when the same people would probably say that putting under safety car is a good thing and making things more exciting.

  41. wolfe1970

    wolfe1970

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    100% Every driver should have to do a mandatory pit stop under normal racing conditions, but still a second and fourth is great for the team

  42. Ryan Windridge

    Ryan Windridge

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    The silver vodaphone mclaren hamilton days was the best they should run Mercedes engine as mclaren is Mercedes

  43. Charles Mouse

    Charles Mouse

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    What Lando is saying makes a good deal of sense and maybe this needs to be looked at for the future. But I am more interested in the rules being applied consistently than what they actually are, good or bad luck only adds interest. Sport is performed by people highly skilled in an otherwise worthless activity for entertainment. From the perspective of the spectators paying the bills all they really want is fairness of opportunity and for the people engaged in that sport to stick to what you are paying them to do when they are on your time.

  44. Cap't Toffee

    Cap't Toffee

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    That rule is garbage. Cost Jenson the win at Monaco in 2011 as well.

  45. Stuart Anderson

    Stuart Anderson

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    Yes new tyres on, the same compound forcing the mandatory stop.

  46. Catherine Boyce

    Catherine Boyce

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    CHEATED OUT OF P3

    • SIXITHS

      SIXITHS

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      Norris had half of the race left to get past Stroll, and had DRS too. Sainz was behind Stroll on the restart, one place ahead of Norris, and yet he went on to finish ahead of Stroll and almost won the race... Lando has only himself to blame for not managing to find a way past the Racing Point, who have been slower then McLaren on the low downforce power tracks this year.

  47. Pete Johnson

    Pete Johnson

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    All the people claiming Stroll is just a pay driver because his dad is rich must be people who have never seen a proper pay driver. His dads wealth obviously helped him get to F1 and into a good team, but to be fair to the lad he's getting results. Pay drivers don't beat solid drivers like Perez. They wander around at the back of the grid and crash into stuff. Stroll is a decent talent.

  48. Aaron-Noonan-Guy

    Aaron-Noonan-Guy

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    I think they should only be allowed to change tyres on a red flag situation if its a change of weather. If its like it was today then they should have to stay on the same tyres.

  49. Jake Aycicek

    Jake Aycicek

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    When lando said stroll benefited from a free pitsop, I find those two presenters smirking at each other very interesting and would be very intrigued to why they were doing that. Perhaps they had the same opinion, perhaps it was growing discontent that stroll is just a lucky rich guy, or that saying those things against the son of a billionaire in a money based sport isn't the right thing to do.

    • Jake Aycicek

      Jake Aycicek

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      @Tushar V good driver or bribing the fia copying last year's mercedes. I do accept he is lucky at times however if an f3 driver was in that car it would make them look good and you with ur small-mindedness would be arguing for them as well. He does not make a lot out of his car because that car was last year's championship winner. If anything he should be on the podium more often. Anyway that's a whole different argument. Thid argument is about how bribes affect decisions, if you don't know that then I can't argue with u.

    • Tushar V

      Tushar V

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      @Jake Aycicek That's just a stupid statement at this point because Stroll actually does pretty well nowadays. Being consistent, not making big mistakes, taking the opportunities given to him. And he has a very good and experienced teammate but qualifying and race results are close and go either way, so he does make a lot out of his car. And compared to drivers like Albon or Bottas who are nowhere near the level of their teammate, Stroll is improving while those 2 just continue going further behind their teammate. Idk what more you want from him. People hating just to hate, he is bringing in the results and showing he is a good driver with a lot of potential. Why people discriminate against the richer? If Lando wasn't so rich, I'm sure other drivers would also have a chance at F1 or Mclaren.

    • Jake Aycicek

      Jake Aycicek

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      @J T lance dad worth over 2 billion. I'm no mathematician but that's way more than triple.

    • J T

      J T

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      Landos dad worth 300 million

    • Jake Aycicek

      Jake Aycicek

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      @Pete Johnson they are miles rich ahead of any driver in the paddock. He got lucky but I understand that is needed in f1. It's my opinion mate. I think they were smirking a about this issue because they did it as lando was talking about stroll. Following fans knowing stroll intensively bought his way into an f1 seat, I would want to suggest that as a possibility.

  50. The Real Alfalfa Male - not the lame vegan one

    The Real Alfalfa Male - not the lame vegan one

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    Completely right. He also benefitted from that one time when his dad bought Formula 1 teams so his son could race.

    • Jonny Palfrey

      Jonny Palfrey

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      @Miles Rosen that is true they were very circumstantial podiums but at the end of the day, he had the talent to be able to put the car in the right place where it counted, if he lacked talent he would have been trundling along at the back of the grid, or well off the pace in terms of the other cars around him

    • SAI3D

      SAI3D

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      Miles Rosen you could also argue Gasly’s win was lucky

    • Miles Rosen

      Miles Rosen

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      @Dom Thomas Two arguably VERY fortunate podiums. That Azerbaijan race was sheer madness, you'd have had a chance at decent points driving a Vauxhall Astra around with some luck. But I agree that he has had a reasonably strong year

    • Dom Thomas

      Dom Thomas

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      I think he’s proved he’s worthy of being on the grid, he’s usually one of the best starters in races and now has 2 podiums to his name. But I guess people just love jumping on the hating on stroll bandwagon.

    • Zero Ninety

      Zero Ninety

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      @onkouth His lack of talent prevented him from winning.

  51. Omar HASSAN

    Omar HASSAN

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    Both Williams have beaten the Ferrari 🤣

    • EW Car Racing

      EW Car Racing

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      Omar HASSAN and red bull

  52. Regan Louise

    Regan Louise

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    Totally agree with Lando here

  53. Chris Kinsman

    Chris Kinsman

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    The issue is that if McClaren didn't double stack and decided to keep Norris out, similar to Racing Point, he'd have benefited from a red flag too. Racing Point were initially wanting Stroll to stay out and pitted into a pocket of clear air similar to Red Bull and Max earlier in the season (Hungary, I think? Correct me if I'm wrong) but then LeClerc had his horrific crash at parabolica and the rest is history. TL;DR: It's only a stupid rule if you don't get an advantage from it. We were in the mad situation where we had 2 safety car incidents within 2 laps

  54. Michal Lacki

    Michal Lacki

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    Absolutely agree

  55. Sinking

    Sinking

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    Stroll also cut the chicane and got away with that bullshit. Should have been Lando P3.

  56. EMX G

    EMX G

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    Without red flag pit stops it would’ve been a mclaren 1,2

    • Paul

      Paul

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      Perhaps. Stroll and Hamilton would have dropped back obviously. Its just Gasly that might have got in their way. He benefited from switching from hards to mediums though I think under red flag. Would have been interesting to see McLaren 1,2 again haha.

  57. Joe Morris

    Joe Morris

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    Stroll should be able to change tyres but should have to take a 5 second stop go so lando would get the poduim

  58. Oliver Court

    Oliver Court

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    Completely agree with him.

  59. Ruth Gibbons

    Ruth Gibbons

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    I think like at the end of the race you should not be allowed to touch the car unless it would be dangerous not to fix something upon the restart. Lando is perfectly justified in his frustration

  60. George Ng-Bryson

    George Ng-Bryson

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    Ok 1. I'm pleased for stroll,. I think he'd better than many give him credit for and yes he may have lucked into a podium today but still I'm pleased for him. Now having said that 2. Fully agree with lando the rule is stupid. Why are any adjustments allowed to be made to the car, is it because of safety concerns with standing starts on old tyres?

  61. Adam Howitt

    Adam Howitt

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    The rules regarding the mandatory 2 different compounds should altered to having to use 2 different compounds in at least one pit stop, or something like that

  62. Adam Kempster

    Adam Kempster

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    I agree stroll should still have to pit after the restart.

  63. David S

    David S

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    He's not asking for Stroll to be demoted, he's pointing out a very obvious issue with the rule. Clearly we can't (and shouldn't) legislate against all good fortune, but arbitrarily allowing drivers who haven't yet pitted to benefit from a red flag at the expense of those who have already pitted makes no sense. Should drivers stay out as long as possible on crappy tires hoping someone sprays their car across the track? Or should they race normally, and if there has to be a stoppage, then it's a proper stoppage for everyone.

  64. eamoman651

    eamoman651

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    Lando is spot on..

  65. Jay Cee

    Jay Cee

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    isn't the rule that it's a mandatory to make a pitstop during the race? there was 2 races and Stroll didn't pit.

    • Scott Beard

      Scott Beard

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      No, the rule is that you have to run two different tyre compounds (if it's dry). The red flag rule should be changed to allow changes of tyre only to the same compound imo, would sort this out

  66. OllieSutton

    OllieSutton

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    The rules make little sense to me. A red flag is stopping the race so surely it should restart exactly as it was? Yes the pack would be bunched up more but you could get that from a safety car anyway

    • OrNoir

      OrNoir

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      They should be allowed to change the tires during the stoppage on safety grounds (risk of old tires blowing out before they can pit on the restart), but it shouldn’t count as the mandatory stop, for sure. As it is the rule rewards being dopey like RP were and punishes being proactive with strategy.

    • Paul

      Paul

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      Not really though. For safety reasons work can be done on cars after a red flag, and rightfully so. Tbh the "gamey" rule here is the fact drivers NEED to use two different compounds. There is absolutely no reason for this rule other than to add to the spectacle and strategy. I dont mind this rule though as it works. Imo, work on cars, including tyres, should remain completely fair game after a red flag, but if they want a rule to negate what happened today, then I'd say any tyre switch during a red flag should not count towards a second tyre compound. This would mean Stroll would still have to pit; it would shaft his race strategy, rather than benefiting him but oh well.

  67. AD O6

    AD O6

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    Should’ve been a McLaren 1-2

    • AD O6

      AD O6

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      Harry Townend well Hamilton’s team bottled it for him and McLaren did alright deserved it

    • Harry Townend

      Harry Townend

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      AD O6 I certainly did watch the race and the Mclarens were just not good enough if that had been Hamilton in second place in a mclaren he would have definitely won.

    • AD O6

      AD O6

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      Harry Townend they were Pierre and lance were lucky you clearly didn’t see the race

    • Harry Townend

      Harry Townend

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      But it wasn’t they were not good enough

  68. Blue Vase Conspiracy

    Blue Vase Conspiracy

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    *masked pillocks.*

  69. George_Gamez

    George_Gamez

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    500'th like

  70. Max G

    Max G

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    These rules have been on place for many years, yet something like that happens and the drivers cry

    • Patrick.

      Patrick.

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      Because it’s Stroll. If Lando got a podium in similar circumstances we’d never hear the end of how amazing he is from the British reporters.

    • Mark Parry

      Mark Parry

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      Just because they’ve been in place for years doesn’t mean the rule is right

  71. XPRESS Health Medical

    XPRESS Health Medical

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    So salty!!!

  72. LOLZ LOLZ

    LOLZ LOLZ

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    I agree with him, I already posted it in the hightlights thread but at the very least you shouldn't be able to change tyre compound during a red flag. Tyres yes, compound no.

  73. oliver

    oliver

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    They would have been on for a 1-2

  74. jab al

    jab al

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    The more some drivers complain about other drivers having a free stop under safety car etc, the more likely it'll be that the fia will ban tyre changes under safety car/vsc, now personally I think that'll ruin F1 as the whole idea of getting a cheat pit stop adds more excitement and throws a spanner in the works for the guys at the back of the grid sometimes 🙄

  75. The_red_ barron

    The_red_ barron

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    That sky presenter is so patronising.

  76. Hi I'm Charlie

    Hi I'm Charlie

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    "argy bargy" and "elbows out" well done lando u learned well

    • CeeStinah Music

      CeeStinah Music

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      Sounds like he's learned off Matt Gallagher from WTF1 XD

    • Tak

      Tak

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      If they keep gettinig the elbows out we might see some more 🅱️i🅱️lical scenes this weekend

    • RockPaperScissors

      RockPaperScissors

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      Bottas needs to sharpen his elbows too and grow a pair.

    • PhoenixGT3

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      When he consistently overfuels and sets up a switchback every three centimetres his training will be complete.

  77. balf1111117373

    balf1111117373

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    I thought he’s been playing the F1 game abit too much when he slammed his brakes on before the pit line

    • Moses Ade

      Moses Ade

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      @Philip Waller nobody behind him not affecting anything

    • Philip Waller

      Philip Waller

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      @Moses Ade remember at Silverstone this year Lewis locking up after the line?

    • Suicidal_Cookie

      Suicidal_Cookie

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      @Moses Ade look at the whole situation

    • Moses Ade

      Moses Ade

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      Bias stewards remember lewis in 2017 he got a penalty for that

  78. Frank Smith

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    Lando is spot on here, constructors should be able to do whatever they want during a red flag, change the tyres, adjust things, whatever. It just shouldn’t count as their mandatory stop

    • idh_ dutt

      idh_ dutt

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      Lets just understand lando doesnt like the tyre change rule under red flag

    • Dodomando

      Dodomando

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      I would go the other way and say the cars can not be adjusted under red flag unless it was involved in the accident that caused the red flag. Only thing they should be able to do is keep the engine going, put the tyre blankets on and keep the car from over heating

    • Tom Bell

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      @KPack 93 I don't disagree with you. It would be fairer for everyone to pit at least once. Otherwise it would be a sprint race. However, in red flag conditions they still need to be able to change to any tyre. F1 is all about exploiting loop holes. There will always be winners and losers. Stroll managed to win this one.

    • KPack 93

      KPack 93

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      @Tom Bell if they run out of a specific compound then they just dont get a free change of tyres or can swap to the partially used tyres of the same compound. I don't get why people are advocates for somebody getting to finish a race without ever pitting.

    • Tom Bell

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      Also, a driver might have run out of a particular compound and so the rule must be, allowed to change to any.

  79. galetaf

    galetaf

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    100% honest 100% right

    • galetaf

      galetaf

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      J T How? Lance basically got a free podium because he got no pit lane stops & still managed to get new tyres when the race was suspended. Lando would have gotten a podium if it wasn’t for that.

    • J T

      J T

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      Comes across as a spolit brat

    • galetaf

      galetaf

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      FallGuy1109 I wouldn’t

    • FallGuy1109

      FallGuy1109

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      imagine if Lewis said this, everyone would be complaining.

  80. Tobi Folayan

    Tobi Folayan

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    I agree with him but imagine if Hamilton said this

    • Tobi Folayan

      Tobi Folayan

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      Dr. Ellie Sattler I haven’t seen anyone else comment “Imagine if Lewis” before on any post and you’re acting like it’s the most common thing

    • Dr. Ellie Sattler

      Dr. Ellie Sattler

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      @Tobi Folayan Lol wtf is wrong with you? I'm not crying about anything...I'm simply annoyed at seeing this kind of stupid argument constantly. I respect and like Lewis very much but I don't necessarily want everything to end up being about him or wade through incessant arguments from people who either love or hate him. These kinds of "Imagine if Lewis said/did this!" comments are just asking for a crapfest of haters and fans catfighting. This is about Lando

    • Tobi Folayan

      Tobi Folayan

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      Dr. Ellie Sattler cry more

    • Dr. Ellie Sattler

      Dr. Ellie Sattler

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      FFS why do people have to bring Lewis into everything? Just STOP!!!! It just causes arguments and has nothing to do with Lando's interview!

    • Mossy

      Mossy

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      Yeh but I guess looking at it lando doesn’t get pole mainly every race

  81. A M

    A M

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    This is why modern day F1 fans are so ridiculous....this rule has been there for a long time and people win and lose from it. All of a sudden if Lando loses out now its an unfair rule. Now people are using their dislike for stroll to act as if Lando is not being a saw loser. The rules are the same for everyone. I bet you he wouldnt have that opinion if he was the one who benefited. And stroll took a risk by not pitting and luckily it paid off. I hate this having a favourite driver thing where we lose perspective.

    • Tushar V

      Tushar V

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      @UTDspiritF1 Virk All he's saying is Lando wouldn't have complained if he was in Stroll's position and got a podium or won the race. People only complain when they lose out from it which is stupid because the rule is not inherently bad. It just means people win or lose. I mean people get an accelerated pit stop and get 10+ seconds advantage on others when pitting under safety car. Unfair for the people who just pitted before the safety car or people who passed the pit stop when the safety car came out. Why are people not crying about that? That's an unfair advantage.

    • UTDspiritF1 Virk

      UTDspiritF1 Virk

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      Mate this is should not be there in the first place. I saw this in Baku and I hated it it should not be a mandiotory stop so stop thinking in your fairytale world where everyone supports lando because there have been other ppl saying to get rid of this rule from before. Especially when I saw it in Baku how some cars benefited

  82. Stefan rhys

    Stefan rhys

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    He’s not wrong. Stroll didn’t pit, and then gained places as other drivers did pit, then the red flag happens and he’s allowed to change tyres, and start ahead on the restart? That’s so wrong. A free pit stop for real

    • Karl

      Karl

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      Only been that rule for 10years..now everyones bitching because RP exploited it

    • Ziggy Vertang

      Ziggy Vertang

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      @George Bennett So many people are saying its the luck of F1...Um not its a loophole which in hindsight gives unfair advantage and its not a law of nature so it can just...you know...be changed for future races

    • George Bennett

      George Bennett

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      ​@Patrick7022 77 Gasly was lucky to pit at the time he did however, he still had to pit and lost time. Stroll didn't have to pit and didn't lose time, that's not luck it's a loophole that should be closed up

    • Patrick7022 77

      Patrick7022 77

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      Stefan rhys I think it’s perfectly fair, luck is apart of f1. If stroll had to box, he’d go to the back of the grid which is even more unfair. People just want the rule changed now that lando has missed out imo

  83. Rich

    Rich

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    The whole point of that rule is that you don't get race restarts with people on completely different tyres! If there had just been a red flag in the middle of a pit window for example you would have half the cars on used tyres vs half on new. The guys on used tyres would be at a disadvantage because they didn't get the chance to pit before the flag came out. In this circumstance it was Stroll choosing to stay out under safety car then gaining an advantage through the red flag, which is where the complaint should really lie. At the end of the day the rules are what they are and it ended up a good race

    • Scott Beard

      Scott Beard

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      I feel like the answer to this would be to allow tyre changes, but only to the same compound. Therefore if you had already changed compound, no problem, but if you had not you would still need to pit again regardless of the condition of the tyres in order to run both compounds

    • Rich

      Rich

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      @SR1Records for sure the mandatory stop thing is an issue in this situation. I suppose it's just the luck of the racing gods playing again.

    • SR1Records

      SR1Records

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      That's one way of looking at it - it's unfair for a car to miss their pit window and have to restart on older tyres compared to those that pitted. However... By being allowed to take your so called "mandatory" pit stop under a red flag and lose literally zero time gains a huge advantage! Much more advantage losing zero time for your pit stop that the disadvantage of restarting on older tyres because you didn't happen to pit yet. Ultimately, the timing sucked for Mclaren and worked perfectly for Alpha Tauri and Racing point.With Lewis's penalty it could (and probably should have been) a Mclaren 1 2.

    • Will Downes

      Will Downes

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      ?

  84. stu skivens

    stu skivens

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    Like Vettel benefitted from a free pitstop in Monaco in 2011 when Hamilton crashed into Massa.

    • The Gooner 49

      The Gooner 49

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      In 2011 it was an incident between Hamilton, Sutil, Alguersuari and Petrov that caused the red flag.

  85. Keke Hilo

    Keke Hilo

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    Let’s be honest if lando was in strolls shoes he wouldn’t have the same opinion.

    • TwoStone

      TwoStone

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      Nicole that’s basically what i said lol

    • Nicole

      Nicole

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      Actually he addressed that in an earlier interview with Will Buxton. Lando said something along the lines of "admittedly, if I had benefited from the rule today, I'd say it was the best rule ever...but really, regardless of whether I benefit from this rule in the future or not, I think they should change it."

    • TwoStone

      TwoStone

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      of course he wouldn’t but it still stands it a stupid rule

  86. Patrick.

    Patrick.

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    So what? In Austria Norris benefited from Verstappen retiring, Hamilton and Albon crashing, and bad strategy from Racing Point to get a podium. He benefited from team orders, Perez hitting Albon, and Stroll hitting Ricciardo in Styria. He was behind Sainz the whole race in Britain until his puncture. Whiny brat is the luckiest driver on the grid.

    • Patrick.

      Patrick.

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      LippyGames Wow what a brilliant argument, you refuted all of my points! Why can’t you accept that Lando has been insanely lucky this season?

    • LippyGames

      LippyGames

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      You are clueless , just dont comment on anything to do with F1 in Future

  87. 007dunphy

    007dunphy

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    1000% right they shouldn’t be allowed to touch the cars

    • Karl

      Karl

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      @Aldo Gjipali but then people would just use 1 compound, or srop for 1 sec in thwir box and not change tires at all

    • wolfe1970

      wolfe1970

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      F1 tires dont like to go through too many heat cycles, it would be unsafe to let them cool then heat again, 100% the teams should change their tires, but not count as a pit stop, every driver should do at least one pit stop under normal racing conditions

    • Patrick.

      Patrick.

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      Aldo Gjipali McLaren and Renault were both faster than Racing Point in Silverstone and Spa, while Racing Point were better in Spain and Hungary. I don’t think it’s a crazy idea that Racing Point are behind on power circuits. And yeah qualifying is different to race pace, and RP all season long have had better qualifying pace than race pace. Unless you think Perez has somehow regressed massively this season the three cars are fairly similar in pace.

    • Aldo Gjipali

      Aldo Gjipali

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      @Patrick. perez only finished behind stroll because of strategy. Just because McLaren were quicker in some Spa doesn't mean they are quicker in power circuits. Also race pace is different from quali

    • Patrick.

      Patrick.

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      007dunphy Yes he gained time but not 25 seconds, and Norris and Bottas still had half the race to try and pass him. Instead, Stroll pulled ahead. For sure he was lucky, but Stroll was keeping pace with Sainz and pulling ahead of Norris. McLaren were faster than Racing Point all weekend. Gasly also changes tyres, from hards to mediums, under the red flag but nobody complains about that. Vettel and Kvyat were ‘lucky’ to get on the podium in Germany last year, Sainz and Gasly were lucky to get a podium in Brazil, Norris was insanely lucky in Austria. These things happen in F1.

  88. veegtec

    veegtec

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    well said Lando

    • Moses Ade

      Moses Ade

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      Roles where reversed 👀

  89. Matt Tarrant

    Matt Tarrant

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    Stroll was a lucky boy

  90. MOK

    MOK

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    Benefitted, but everyone had the same opportunity. He and RacingPoint were just so incredibly lucky that the red flag came out at that point.

    • MOK

      MOK

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      @Liam I wasn't...

    • Liam

      Liam

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      @MOK I'm strictly on about McLaren...

    • MOK

      MOK

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      @Liam Stroll benefitted...

    • Liam

      Liam

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      How did they benefit? With the Lewis penalty McLaren were net 1 and 2. They then we're 6 and 7 on the red flag grid. Should've been a McLaren 1-2 today. But happy for Pierre, been one of the best on the grid this year.

    • UTDspiritF1 Virk

      UTDspiritF1 Virk

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      But it is a free pit stop That shouldn’t be allowed

  91. Peelioka

    Peelioka

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    I'm not sure how people are defending this rule, it has always been a stupid rule and tends to crop up once a year, thats not exactly rare.

    • m p

      m p

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      @SIXITHS you still haven't addressed my criticism. I'm saying allowing the mandatory pitstop during red flag is unfair. I don't know what you mean when u say racing point took a gamble waiting for safety car, most teams pitted during safety car like ur supposed to stroll was further down the midfield and was fortunate for the red flag, as it was quite unexpected. Kudos for racing point if this was their intention to hope for red flag, I and many others if you watch any of the sky pundits and most other comments believe it shouldn't count for the mandatory pitstop as it completely discredits every other team who have strategized well and pitted under safety car. Whether lando should of caught up or not, I don't really care because this is not what it's about, it's a silly rule

    • SIXITHS

      SIXITHS

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      @m p So do you have a problem with all those who gain an advantage by pitting under a VSC or Safety Car? Racing Point took a gamble that there would be another saftey car, and it paid off. Crying about their good fortune when Lando had half a race to get past is pathetic. And it wasn't even close to _"like 30secs of race time"_ gained.

    • m p

      m p

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      @SIXITHS this has nothing to do with what I've said I don't care whether lando overtook stroll or not. The issue is stroll being in that position in the first place. When McLaren strategized well and were running P2 and P3, it is unfair for stroll (or any other driver if in the same scenario) to get like 30secs of race time shaved off for not strategizing well and missing the pit window.

    • SIXITHS

      SIXITHS

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      @m p Sainz was behind Stroll on the restart, yet managed to get past him and almost won the race. Lando was right behind Sainz on the restart, but couldn't find a way past with half the race left, DRS and against the Racing Point that has been slower then the McLaren on the low downforce power tracks this year. Lando only has himself to blame for not beating Lance Stroll.

    • m p

      m p

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      @Moses Ade no they wouldn't the rule is objectively unfair, regardless of which driver

  92. Lastname Firstname

    Lastname Firstname

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    Stroll's dad needs to buy Sky Sports.

    • Swefgteedff T

      Swefgteedff T

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      Lastname Firstname underrated comment

    • Khizer Ahmad

      Khizer Ahmad

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      😂😂 Don't think he can buy out disney tho

  93. Ziggy Vertang

    Ziggy Vertang

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    Lando should have been on podium, stroll gained a huge advantage such a shame for Lando

    • Ziggy Vertang

      Ziggy Vertang

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      @VPV Yes 100% I would be saying the same thing! It has nothing to do with being a driver fan but everything to do with being a fan of F1, My issue was this rule has given an unfair advantage has allowed someone onto the 3rd step and celebrate a podium I don’t think they should have deserved. It also meant that the driver who got P4 who should have got podium in my book couldn’t celebrate it, Now this isn’t just Lance vs Lando, lets say we add on 30secs for a pitstop to Lances time to bring in more or less inline with what everyone else had to do, that would place him P10 behind his team mate, so Perez, Kvyat, Ocon, Hamilton, Riccardo, Bottas and Norris have all received a position drop and less points then what they all deserved because of a rule which is pretty much overlooked until now and needs to be acknowledge and changed going forward.

    • VPV

      VPV

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      @Ziggy Vertang The rule can certainly be changed for next season. Just saying if Lando had gained the advantage and Lance would be the one complaining would you have the same reaction?

    • Ziggy Vertang

      Ziggy Vertang

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      @VPV I am not crying about it, the results are the results and its not like I am actively involved in the race they took a podium away from me :) but as a F1 fan not a driver fan what is wrong with admitting that another driver had significant advantage that gained them 30 or more seconds of advantage which drivers behind didn't have because of a rule which can easily be changed for future races?

    • VPV

      VPV

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      @Freya Robinson Exactly don't know why so many Lando fans are crying. Being unlucky is a part of the sport.

    • Freya Robinson

      Freya Robinson

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      VPV imagine being this immature

  94. ParaDoc

    ParaDoc

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    Totally agree with Lando the red flag is not a pit stop it’s RP’s fault they didn’t pit, it’s definitely a pooey rule and needs to be changed

    • stephen G

      stephen G

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      @Garfie489 yes, baku 2017

    • Karl

      Karl

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      Its not RP fault they didnt pit, they played the game and got lucky

    • OrNoir

      OrNoir

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      Max G Oh yes they did; Monaco 2011. I’m honestly surprised the rule wasn’t changed after that race was ruined by this same rule.

    • 999 Ali

      999 Ali

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      Agree wot rules is rules. Bitch

    • Jake J

      Jake J

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      Max G actually a lot of people, myself included... complained when seb got away with it at Monaco years ago when his tyres was finished near the end of the race. It shouldn’t be allowed.... the mandatory pit stop should be done at racing speed not for free under a red flag.

  95. NTK 94

    NTK 94

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    the thing is how often does a red flag come into effect no need to change the rules for a flag which is rarely waved

    • MrSniperfox29

      MrSniperfox29

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      @Bizarre Bunny There is no such thing as a mandatory pit stop rule. The only "rule" is that you use two different compounds.

    • Bizarre Bunny

      Bizarre Bunny

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      NTK 94 yeah it's rare but it does happen and drivers shouldn't just get to loophole the *mandatory* pitstop rule just because it doesn't happen often because on those rare occasions it does happen it's not really fair to the others

  96. SuperSonic14

    SuperSonic14

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    I totally agree. This rule is ridiculous, but I suppose the reason why it hasn't been scrapped is because Red Flags are uncommon.

  97. Lastname Firstname

    Lastname Firstname

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    He needs some milk

    • B Hombre

      B Hombre

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      @Matt Burfield Dude chill. Have some milk

    • Matt Burfield

      Matt Burfield

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      No he doesn’t. Stop with the milk references.

  98. MHI Odyssey

    MHI Odyssey

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    Rules are the same for everyone.

    • MHI Odyssey

      MHI Odyssey

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      @Drenwickification nope.

    • Drenwickification

      Drenwickification

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      whats your point? doesn't mean it's not a dumb rule

  99. Rafael Jandres

    Rafael Jandres

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    Lando could have dome the same

    • therealjeagles

      therealjeagles

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      @AshyKnees It's luck of the draw; RP went longer, it was their decision and it happened to work today. You win some, you lose some.

    • Billy Howe

      Billy Howe

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      Rafael Jandres lando had already pitted under the first safety car whereas stroll didn’t, that’s the point

    • AshyKnees

      AshyKnees

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      that isn't the point, Lando had already made his pit stop, and Stroll had his during the red flag so he didn't pause at any time during the race when everyone else did, and pit stops last about 15 seconds so, apart from Leclerc crashing, that is ultimately the only reason that Stroll is on the podium

  100. Ash B

    Ash B

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    Stroll gained an advantage from going off track on the restart. Bs poll for stroll

    • Jake Mason

      Jake Mason

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      Patrick. No one calls him posh boy its daddys cash and also the difference is Norris is not a pay driver and his dad didnt buy a team

    • Moses Ade

      Moses Ade

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      @mark bell he pitted under a safety car then red flag came for everyone

    • Jake Mason

      Jake Mason

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      Patrick. Lol i was only jk. He doesnt need things made up, without the 2nd safety car Mclaren would have been 1-2 after Hamiltons penalty and could have held on, same points this ssn as stroll in a better car😂 i mean he was unfortunate not to podium cos of Strolls free pit and the 2nd safety car on pure pace

    • mark bell

      mark bell

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      Ash B same with the podium he got for Williams

    • Moses Ade

      Moses Ade

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      @James Digby because he could have won